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arnab
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been meaning to start this thread for a while. basically, we tend to take the names of dishes for granted. yes, some are self-explanatory if you speak the languages (rosho-gulla/ras-gulla=ball of syrup) but sometimes not even if you do. i'm going to list some names of dishes and ingredients that i like and use but don't really know the meaning of the name of. please add answers and questions of your own. note: i'm not asking what these things are--only what their names mean and ideally what they derive from

biryani
paratha/porotta
sambhar
dosa
pakoda
masala
dalchini

i have lots more but let's start with these.


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arnab   etymology   Sep 28 2004, 05:36 AM
Mahmud   Just don't let Moazzam near this thread. I...   Sep 28 2004, 05:53 AM
arnab   yes, must make this forum "read only" fo...   Sep 28 2004, 06:21 AM
anil   Letting non-linguists and structural anthropologis...   Sep 28 2004, 06:50 AM
gautam   dalchini < daru chini ? --> daru =tree; ch...   Sep 28 2004, 04:45 PM
Rushina   Nothing to contribute at the moment but this looks...   Sep 28 2004, 05:21 PM
armagod   Here are a few etymologies, with links to IE and S...   Oct 27 2004, 09:02 PM
roshna   (1) What we refer to as “French beans” are call...   Feb 7 2005, 11:02 PM
vAtraT   I'm humbled -- umbled, even -- mon cher. Unre...   Feb 8 2005, 12:11 AM
roshna   [QUOTE]Note the cute bastardization of FrenchBeans...   Feb 8 2005, 05:18 AM
samir   But didn't beringela itself come from the Ind...   Feb 8 2005, 07:14 AM
Sue Darlow   I think I have worked out why Jerusalem artichokes...   Feb 8 2005, 02:52 PM
roshna   Samir, you're right--the root is Sanskrit. ...   Feb 8 2005, 07:05 PM
armagod   gira = turn, sole = sun. How literal!   Feb 8 2005, 07:11 PM
Sue Darlow   Indeed, much much earlier the Aryans could have ...   Feb 9 2005, 01:39 AM
seajay   This is where I came in (almost) on Another Listse...   Feb 9 2005, 02:46 AM
vAtraT   In matters of etymology, it's best not to kid....   Feb 10 2005, 07:07 AM
gingerly   RE: etymology   Feb 11 2005, 02:53 AM
Sue Darlow   I always wondered why brinjals were called 'eg...   Feb 15 2005, 01:57 PM
roshna   Wow! This is a new sight for me. Do you ha...   Feb 15 2005, 07:09 PM
armagod   The white ones are definitiely available in many m...   Feb 15 2005, 07:22 PM
vAtraT   I'll be damned! White brinjal!! ...   Feb 16 2005, 12:38 AM
seajay   And no doubt available at an upscale or farmers...   Feb 16 2005, 12:44 AM
arnab   just when i thought there was no way for this vile...   Feb 16 2005, 12:57 AM
roshna   "Cauliflower" is from Italian cavoli f...   Feb 16 2005, 01:59 AM
vAtraT   arnab: Do you really not like egg plant? Not like...   Feb 16 2005, 02:17 AM
roshna   Arre vot re, vAtrat! I keep writing your na...   Feb 16 2005, 04:23 AM
arnab   Arre vot re, vAtrat! I keep writing your na...   Feb 16 2005, 05:11 AM
vAtraT   Arre vot re, vAtrat! I keep writing your name...   Feb 16 2005, 06:16 AM
deedawar   changed my mind   Feb 8 2007, 01:26 AM
ajit   vAtraT bhau, are you familiar with a contemporary ...   Feb 16 2005, 06:35 AM
arnab   have moved the continuing discussion of my baingan...   Feb 17 2005, 03:14 AM
gingerly   could it be? so? :huh: it was a masala vadai a...   Mar 15 2005, 06:10 AM
vAtraT   Either etymology is, um, hard to digest. Especial...   Mar 15 2005, 08:02 AM
gingerly   don'nt know how the jump from this , to ...   Mar 15 2005, 08:27 AM
mediamongol   actually firangi comes from Frank, which of cour...   Mar 17 2005, 01:05 PM
roshna   Really? In Pennsylvania, when you refer to a ...   Mar 17 2005, 07:31 PM
armagod   Yep, the Franks took over what is now France after...   Mar 17 2005, 08:07 PM
gingerly   Swati says a few well aimed :rant: at some of the...   Mar 20 2005, 02:27 AM
chefzadi   Arabic badenjal (eggplant) must come form Indian b...   May 15 2005, 05:22 AM
jason gogal   Isn't arrack some kind of distilled liquor? ...   May 15 2005, 10:14 AM
chefzadi   Yes.   May 15 2005, 11:18 AM
fifi   Chaat is often pluralized in foodwriting and on me...   Feb 6 2007, 10:58 PM
deedawar   Chaat is often pluralized in foodwriting and on m...   Feb 6 2007, 11:06 PM
vAtraT   More commonly, as Dee says. "Collective noun...   Feb 7 2007, 12:14 AM
deedawar   More commonly, as Dee says. "Collective noun...   Feb 7 2007, 12:50 AM
fifi   So, "Chaats" is wrong? Not just less com...   Feb 7 2007, 09:57 PM
fifi   Well. Maybe this will work. My screen didn't l...   Feb 7 2007, 10:11 PM
vAtraT   Well. Maybe this will work. My screen didn't l...   Feb 7 2007, 10:32 PM
roshna   But if you're saying it to a desi, it's ...   Feb 7 2007, 12:20 AM
vAtraT   But if you're saying it to a desi, it's ...   Feb 7 2007, 12:40 AM
Kavitha Ravi   Deleted   Feb 7 2007, 09:52 PM
notsogifted   fifi, in (most/all?) indian languages, the plural ...   Feb 7 2007, 10:05 PM
fifi   Thank you, NSG -- SO, saying "chaats" ...   Feb 7 2007, 10:22 PM
notsogifted   Thank you, NSG -- SO, saying "chaats...   Feb 7 2007, 10:43 PM
notsogifted   like swati (ed. and others) in the thread you link...   Feb 7 2007, 10:21 PM
roshna   Two suggestions for the etymology of chaat: Chatc...   Feb 8 2007, 12:30 AM
gingerly   [quote name='Wildflower' post='129205' date='May ...   May 9 2007, 06:47 AM
Wildflower   [quote name='gingerly' post='129208' date='May 9 ...   May 9 2007, 07:01 AM
frangipani   BTW, this Mangarasa fellow also describes shrikha...   May 9 2007, 09:04 AM
Wildflower   BTW, this Mangarasa fellow also describes shrikh...   May 9 2007, 10:02 AM
frangipani   WF, in Marathi the word gets pronounced as shikraN...   May 9 2007, 10:22 AM
Wildflower   WF, in Marathi the word gets pronounced as shikra...   May 9 2007, 11:21 AM
Anjali   In my NORTH :P Kanara dialect of Kannada, it is p...   May 9 2007, 10:25 AM
gingerly   this little snippet from and from well?   May 31 2007, 10:44 AM
hibiscus   Wowee. Duces = ducks seems to be a reasonable enou...   May 31 2007, 11:13 AM
gingerly   also repeating [url=http://www.anothersubcontine...   May 17 2008, 03:08 AM
gingerly   [quote name='deedawar' post='197071' date='May 28...   May 29 2009, 11:32 PM
notsogifted   i've always associated this with being of kas...   May 30 2009, 12:16 AM
gingerly   yes, see here :P spelling with a 'k' rat...   May 30 2009, 12:36 AM
notsogifted   yes, see [url=http://www.anothersubcontinent.com/...   May 30 2009, 01:37 AM
arnab   to help things along i will from now on refer to i...   May 30 2009, 01:43 AM
notsogifted   to help things along i will from now on refer to i...   May 30 2009, 01:54 AM
arnab   to help things along i will from now on refer to ...   May 30 2009, 05:06 AM
Rumali Roti   Anyone know why Simla mirchi? They don't nee...   May 30 2009, 02:44 AM
arnab   Anyone know why [i]Simla mirchi? They don't...   May 30 2009, 05:16 AM
Rumali Roti   Um. . . Someone else?   May 30 2009, 07:55 AM
hibiscus   I had ouzo recently and when I remarked that ...   Jun 6 2009, 06:19 PM
groomlake   I had ouzo recently and when I remarked that ...   Jun 9 2009, 05:08 PM
Nichiro   I had ouzo recently and when I remarked that ...   Jun 9 2009, 05:32 PM
gingerly   Anyone know why [i]Simla mirchi? They don't...   Jul 7 2009, 02:04 AM
hima   Anyone know why [i]Simla mirchi? They don...   Jul 7 2009, 02:16 AM
gingerly   balushai another way from'The Anglo-Hindoo...   Jul 16 2009, 02:47 AM
armagod   Charu/Rasam.   Jul 16 2009, 01:03 PM
gingerly   of course! brain freeze in hindoostanee mode t...   Jul 16 2009, 09:51 PM


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